The Public Forum of The M+G+R Foundation
May 2007
PURPOSE
The purpose of this Public Forum is to publicly respond to and/or comment upon correspondence that
we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal interest in these very unsettling
times.
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statement from the correspondence received. The identity of the correspondent will be kept
confidential except in the case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the
appropriate responsible entities.
Letters/Questions - Addressed on May
2007
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From Initials Withheld @ Country ID Withheld - Published on May 31st
I am writing on behalf of a friend whom I will call Leo.
Leo is taking a battery of government related tests in an effort to secure a better position. For the first set of tests someone gave him advantageous information before the test, thus, logically, he did well. Afterwards, remorse set in and he underwent the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
For the second set of tests, the same individual gave him advantageous information in a folded slip of paper. Leo, well repented of his prior transgression, placed the note in his pocket and never read it.
Now, the last set of tests are coming up and Leo is concerned because he feels that the "benefactor" will, this time, give him the information verbally. In this case - even if he did not want to hear it, he will.
Leo does not want to receive said advantageous information yet he does not want to tell his "benefactor" to remain silent for fear of offending him. In addition, it will create for himself a few problems since the "benefactor" is a member of his family plus is connected with him through his current employment.
What should he do?
I am writing on behalf of a friend whom I will call Leo.
Leo is taking a battery of government related tests in an effort to secure a better position. For the first set of tests someone gave him advantageous information before the test, thus, logically, he did well. Afterwards, remorse set in and he underwent the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
For the second set of tests, the same individual gave him advantageous information in a folded slip of paper. Leo, well repented of his prior transgression, placed the note in his pocket and never read it.
Now, the last set of tests are coming up and Leo is concerned because he feels that the "benefactor" will, this time, give him the information verbally. In this case - even if he did not want to hear it, he will.
Leo does not want to receive said advantageous information yet he does not want to tell his "benefactor" to remain silent for fear of offending him. In addition, it will create for himself a few problems since the "benefactor" is a member of his family plus is connected with him through his current employment.
What should he do?
Initials Withheld
A. The answer lies in the Holy Scriptures; most specifically in 1 Corinthians 10:
23 All things are lawful for me, but all things do not edify. 24 Let no man seek his own, but
that which is another's. 25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, eat; asking no question for
conscience' sake. 26 The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 27 If any of them that
believe not, invite you, and you will be willing to go; eat of any thing that is set before you,
asking no question for conscience' sake. 28 But if any man say: This has been sacrificed to idols,
do not eat of it for his sake that told it, and for conscience' sake. 29 Conscience, I say, not
thy own, but the other's. For why is my liberty judged by another man's conscience?
In plain English what Paul is saying is: If you eat food that was offered to idols in the presence of a non believer in Christ, of one who sacrifices to idols and then eats the food, you are causing scandal; you give the impression that you are betraying your faith in Christ. If conversely, the food was offered to idols before and is not presented to you as such, it does not matter if you eat it - no scandal will be given; no soul will be misled.
Even if Leo did not read the folded paper given to him for the second set of tests, and if the "benefactor" knows Leo as a man of God, Leo has already given a very poor example of Christianity. Even if Leo could forget the verbal clues for the third set, once again, he will be giving scandal.
The only way out is to clear the air with the "benefactor" with great charity - that is - do not make the "benefactor" look like a crook; let God gently and progressively reveal his iniquity to him using your gentle, but firm, example.
Let us not practice what the Vatican has been teaching for over 1600 years and because which the Evangelization failed - duplicity and hypocrisy. Let us live the Gospel and, if the Church Administration want to form a Conga Line and dance into hell, that is their prerogative - we rather Soft Rock our way into Heaven.
From IC @ Philippines - Published on May 28th
Friends,
I have a question regarding the Divine Encouragement postings, while I understand that no
questions will be entertained regarding it's source, I would just like to know whether these
messages are ongoing or if they are being, for want of a better term, "recycled".
Please understand that I have no issue with it one way or the other (after all, the Bible itself is "recycled", if you care to look at it that way, and yet is always new) and that I greatly value these messages, it's just that I remember this is the same message I read a year ago.
I also noticed that starting late February, you indicated that the messages posted on this page would be replaced on a yearly basis, as opposed to the previous notices that the messages would not be re-posted anytime soon.
Please understand that I have no issue with it one way or the other (after all, the Bible itself is "recycled", if you care to look at it that way, and yet is always new) and that I greatly value these messages, it's just that I remember this is the same message I read a year ago.
I also noticed that starting late February, you indicated that the messages posted on this page would be replaced on a yearly basis, as opposed to the previous notices that the messages would not be re-posted anytime soon.
I know you all have a lot of work to do, and seeing as my question is prompted by simple
curiosity, please feel free to ignore it if you feel that it is irrelevant.
Yours in Christ.
IC
A. We notice that you call us "Friends" and not "Family", which immediately
brought to mind a certain biblical quote: Mark 3:35.
Regarding your central question, you have answered it yourself but we will confirm it. You stated: I also noticed that starting late February, you indicated that the messages posted on this page would be replaced on a yearly basis.
That is the case, although some alterations may be made in the actual Message of Encouragement and/or miguel de Portugal Comments part of it as God dictates it.
We certainly take no credit other than being His "gofer".
Regarding your central question, you have answered it yourself but we will confirm it. You stated: I also noticed that starting late February, you indicated that the messages posted on this page would be replaced on a yearly basis.
That is the case, although some alterations may be made in the actual Message of Encouragement and/or miguel de Portugal Comments part of it as God dictates it.
We certainly take no credit other than being His "gofer".
From WO @ USA - Published on May 24th
Praised be Christ!
A question - in which I ask of what I perceive to be a potential collaboration, connivance, and coherence (of sorts) between some disparate elements (1). I refer directly to the "troublesome words" of Ratzinger both in reference to Muslims, stirring up both fanatical Muslims - and Catholics.
Fanaticism, as you have shown, is not of God, (2) nor does it truly lead to Him. It can adversely affect any of us, if we are not diligent. It can occur, or be encouraged for malefic intent (3) by those who serve intelligent evil. In consideration of the ingredients of the words of B XVI, "radical" Islam. Fatima Secret Scam (4), and the manipulation of Prophecy (3): could there be a link in all of these things? (3)
The oft repeated "prophecy" (actually a strange mix of several) is that of a "pope dying a death in exile", coupled with the purported words of the "third secret" in a vision of a "pope fleeing a city in ruins". When one considers what has just happened, and the reaction of the Muslim "extremist" community, might B XVI be getting (or manufacturing) what could be a self fulfilling prophecy? And self induced. (5)
This stirs the pot in favor of the OWO (6) folks, potentially acting as a triggering mechanism for a whole slew of concurrent events. The finger flicking a domino, carefully calculated to trip over 100 others. Indeed we may be closer to Step 17 (7) then some may think!
Am I even "close" on my conjectures?
WO
A. You are close. Review the following Notes that we have assigned to your
letter.
(1) What better example than that of Opus Dei making alliances with whomever will serve their purposes.
(2) Fanaticism Is Not of God
(3) The Manipulation of Legitimate Prophecies/Messages
(4) The third part of the Secret of Fatima Scam
(5) It has been done before, over and over again.
(6) The One World Government - the one that President Clinton, cooperating with God, delayed for ten years.
(7) The Sequence of Events leading to Step No. 17
(1) What better example than that of Opus Dei making alliances with whomever will serve their purposes.
(2) Fanaticism Is Not of God
(3) The Manipulation of Legitimate Prophecies/Messages
(4) The third part of the Secret of Fatima Scam
(5) It has been done before, over and over again.
(6) The One World Government - the one that President Clinton, cooperating with God, delayed for ten years.
(7) The Sequence of Events leading to Step No. 17
From Initials Withheld @ USA - Published on May 22nd
Regarding my recent e-mail which resulted in your latest document about the discernment of the
Will of God.
My original draft email was long, with many personal details. I decided you were to busy to bother
with that. Therefore, I only posed the one question on discernment.
That question you did answer...... and then you went on and addressed just about all the points
I had originally written but did not send to you.
In very different circumstances, I too am doing with my life what I never would have chosen to do
of my own will (it started with a stark moral choice, and led to everything else).
My morale has been sagging lately, but several recent developments, including your reply, have
re-confirmed to me that the Lord is with me in this.
God Bless you,
Initials Withheld
A. The above letter is a perfect example of what we explained in the alluded
document regarding how we should be pliable to the prompting of the Holy Spirit so that
the Will of God is manifested in whatever we do for the
benefit of all!
May God be Eternally Praised for His Omnipotence and Mercy!
May God be Eternally Praised for His Omnipotence and Mercy!
From KK @ USA - Published on May 21st
Please help, I am asking God to restore [name edited out] s' love for me in her heart and mind so
she has it again to give to me the same kind the same amount that I have for her. Like when we
WERE engaged only Stronger and Everlasting.
God gave me faith and we are saved. This is my hearts desire. This is really important to me. Can or will you please help me in getting my miracle.
Maybe forward this request to someone whom can please?
Thank you and God bless lots of love.
God gave me faith and we are saved. This is my hearts desire. This is really important to me. Can or will you please help me in getting my miracle.
Maybe forward this request to someone whom can please?
Thank you and God bless lots of love.
KK
A. The cry of your heart has certainly pierced Heaven, however, what we do not know if such relationship is in accordance to the Will of God.
Therefore, we ask the Eternal Father, in the Name of Jesus Christ, that His Most Holy and Adorable Will be done regarding your and T's relationship. If you are willing to accept His Will, then the result - regardless - will be Perfect.
From RH @ USA - Published on May 19th
Peace to all!
I am not trying to create fear but only concerned that our life is so delicate and very dependent on God Almighty's will, every second. Just this morning while going through the internet, this "Super Volcano" topic keeps hovering and bothering me that I need to send you this mail and provide you the info.
Yes, there are super volcanoes in Indonesia but did not know that there are other areas with massive magma chambers: Hawaiian Islands, Iceland, and Yellowstone. Yellowstone National Park, right here in North America? These massive magma chambers could erupt anytime. Here's an excerpt from an India Daily article:
I am not trying to create fear but only concerned that our life is so delicate and very dependent on God Almighty's will, every second. Just this morning while going through the internet, this "Super Volcano" topic keeps hovering and bothering me that I need to send you this mail and provide you the info.
Yes, there are super volcanoes in Indonesia but did not know that there are other areas with massive magma chambers: Hawaiian Islands, Iceland, and Yellowstone. Yellowstone National Park, right here in North America? These massive magma chambers could erupt anytime. Here's an excerpt from an India Daily article:
"What is the possibility of a mega volcano now in the next ten years? The answer lies in seismic
activities of the earth. Underwater volcanoes, earthquakes have progressively increased many folds
in the last few years. That can be a precursor to some very serious coming. Think about this the
three most sever earthquakes in last 150 years happened in the last four months."
"The traditional geologists say: super volcanoes are likely to give decades — even centuries — of warning signs before they erupt. The scientists think those signs would include lots of earthquakes, massive bulging of the land, an increase in small eruptions, 'swarms' of earthquakes in specific areas, changes in the chemical composition of lavas from smaller eruptions, changes in gasses escaping the ground and, possibly, large-scale cracking of the land."
"The traditional geologists say: super volcanoes are likely to give decades — even centuries — of warning signs before they erupt. The scientists think those signs would include lots of earthquakes, massive bulging of the land, an increase in small eruptions, 'swarms' of earthquakes in specific areas, changes in the chemical composition of lavas from smaller eruptions, changes in gasses escaping the ground and, possibly, large-scale cracking of the land."
RH
A. The recent "flurry" of Super Volcano talk lately has been because there has been a number of small, tell tale 'swarms', earthquakes at just "the right places" that may point out to such an event. We have addressed the Super Volcano issue in the past. More details may be found through the following links:
As if earthquake ravaged Indonesia doesn't have enough to worry about, now scientists warn that a
Sumatran super volcano might blow its top at any time. ..
[23] As the Yellowstone Super Volcano talk continues to fill the e-waves we decided to take a look
at the recent US earthquake history. ..
NEWS - Experiments near Sumatra – are they trying to diffuse a super volcano repeat eruption
like the one 74000 years back. ...
We continue to pray for a Green Apocalypse - an Apocalypse wherein the bulk of the Divine Justice is dispensed through geo-astrological events (earthquakes, floods, comets) as opposed to a massive nuclear holocaust.
From VR @ Dubai and India - Published on May 16th
I take exception to your argument in the Points to Ponder entry of the 6th of May.
There are justifiable reasons why things happened as they did even at the age of 12 in the life of
the Lord. First of all, He was the Lord, the Wisdom. That Wisdom was there on display for all to
see regardless of His age as Luke tells us. Only He didn't flaunt it. But having gotten into a
discussion with the teachers in the temple it was His zeal for His Father's house which kept Him
there, not His disobedience to His earthly parents.
If anyone is to be taken to task for the mess up it would have to be Joseph and Mary who having been told repeatedly by angels that this was the Son of God, still And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. [Luke 2:50]
Perhaps they still could not accept that God would be born and dwell in such a humble position and
dwellings such as theirs (Joseph's and Mary's). I know many people who have the same problem when
accepting the divinity of Jesus. If such information as you have written were to fall into their
hands they would be glad to accept it and justify their stand that the Bible is corrupted by Jews
and Christians and thus, cannot be accepted as scripture. I am talking about Mohammad who leveled
this charge against the People of the Book as he called them. And his followers continue to do
so.
31 He that cometh from above, is above all. He that is of the earth, of the earth he is, and of
the earth he speaketh. He that cometh from heaven, is above all. 32 And what he hath seen and
heard, that he testifieth: and no man receiveth his testimony. 33 He that hath received his
testimony, hath set to his seal that God is true. 34 For he whom God hath sent, speaketh the words
of God: for God doth not give the Spirit by measure. 35 The Father loveth the Son: and he hath
given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth in the Son, hath life everlasting; but he
that believeth not the Son, shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
[John 3]
Jesus' obedience was first to the Father not to the earthly parents. Similarly, many people
'disobey' their parents and elders and convert to Christianity. I know of instances like these in
India where Hindus have been converted. Would that be a sin against them?
19 Then Jesus answered, and said to them: Amen, amen, I say unto you, the Son cannot do any
thing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doth, these the
Son also doth in like manner. [John 5]
May God bless us all and may the Spirit blow as He wills,
VR
Do you ever wonder... why Jesus, who must have been as perfect a boy and son as anyone could
possibly imagine, stayed at the Temple of Jerusalem [Luke 2: 41-50] chatting with the doctors of
the Law - apparently defying Mary and Joseph's authority?
The qualifying word "apparently" clearly shows that we are not stating that Jesus was defying Mary
and Joseph's authority, for that would be unthinkable, even of a preteen Jesus. Our point was to
highlight what the Church has been trying to do from its very early day - strip Jesus and Mary of
their Jewish roots. They, among so many other things, have not understood that if Jesus is cut off
from His Jewish roots then He was not the Messiah, and that, He Was and Is!
At this point we must paraphrase Jesus' words to Philip: "...Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? ... [John 14:9] and tell you: Yo have been in our Very Select List, our Select List and Members List for some time and yet you launch in the above tirade?
Your blatant anti-Semitism blinded you from what we have written in: Foundation of Faith, Biblical Literalism and its Dangers - Part I and Part II, The Jews Did Not Crucify Jesus, The Integration of Body and Soul and Its Harmonious Functioning, and others.
We had noted some "fanatical hues" in your frequent past correspondence (see posting of May 10th below as an example) which we ascribed to a language usage problem, now we know that such is not the case.
As you have noticed by now, you have been removed from all of our Mailing Lists since Fanaticism Is Not Part Of The Legacy Of Jesus Christ .
We certainly do not recognize you to be in a position to tell us how to modify the theological content of what we publish in the Name of God while at the same time thank you for the news references which you have shared with us in the past.
At this point we must paraphrase Jesus' words to Philip: "...Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? ... [John 14:9] and tell you: Yo have been in our Very Select List, our Select List and Members List for some time and yet you launch in the above tirade?
Your blatant anti-Semitism blinded you from what we have written in: Foundation of Faith, Biblical Literalism and its Dangers - Part I and Part II, The Jews Did Not Crucify Jesus, The Integration of Body and Soul and Its Harmonious Functioning, and others.
We had noted some "fanatical hues" in your frequent past correspondence (see posting of May 10th below as an example) which we ascribed to a language usage problem, now we know that such is not the case.
As you have noticed by now, you have been removed from all of our Mailing Lists since Fanaticism Is Not Part Of The Legacy Of Jesus Christ .
We certainly do not recognize you to be in a position to tell us how to modify the theological content of what we publish in the Name of God while at the same time thank you for the news references which you have shared with us in the past.
From G @ USA - Published on May 13th
Good evening and God bless...
G
A. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns with us. Your ailment is very spiritually close to us since God allowed the misuse of this same ailment, suffered by the last Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich, to unleash godless communism in the world through the less than holy activities of Rasputin - rightfully considered one of the precursors of the False Christ.
You may want to review our posts of today (May 13th) in the Board of Updates as well as in Public Forum - Part II as well as the key links from said postings.
May God continue to Bless and sustain you!
Good evening and God bless...
Just wondering your thoughts on Pat Robertson's so called "prophecy" for the 1st six months here
in 2007 and the last 6 months. In the 1st six he says we will see such healings as we never have
seen. In the last 6 months, September or beyond he states, a massive terrorist attack on numerous
U.S. cities will occur, resulting in mass killings, possibly in the millions. He states God has
showed him this vision. Is this World War 3?
What do you think? If this were to take place, then the Warning would also have to happen before
this --this year. Whether Mr. Robertson talks to God, or is a part of a secret society, he
wouldn't have made such a statement unless he was almost certain it would happen. It waits to be
seen.
I have hemophilia and my physical suffering and mental anguish is unreal. I believe because I
suffer so much that God also blesses me with things that he doesn't allow happen to other people.
It seems I see everything so clearly, yet I myself cannot believe things will pass. I know
everything about Maitreya, yet no one around me knows who he is. I have been shown dreams so real
and the Virgin Mary even appeared to me once and "flashes of lightning" in the room in which I
pray other times.
I believe the Miracle will happen on Holy Thursday, March 20, 2008. John Paul II with his
institution of the Luminous Mysteries (for Thursdays) in 2002 prepares us for this event.
I'm not a date-setter, but for some reason this jumps out to me. God bless you my brother, my
sister.
G
A. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns with us. Your ailment is very spiritually close to us since God allowed the misuse of this same ailment, suffered by the last Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich, to unleash godless communism in the world through the less than holy activities of Rasputin - rightfully considered one of the precursors of the False Christ.
You may want to review our posts of today (May 13th) in the Board of Updates as well as in Public Forum - Part II as well as the key links from said postings.
May God continue to Bless and sustain you!
From VR @ Dubai and India - Published on May 10th (and enhanced 12 hours
later)
Regarding the news report (1) :Anglican head Williams says anti-gays misread Bible, and I quote:
Regarding the news report (1) :Anglican head Williams says anti-gays misread Bible, and I quote:
The spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans has said conservative Christians
who cite the Bible to condemn homosexuality are misreading a key passage written by Saint Paul
almost 2,000 years ago.
and
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, addressing theology students in Toronto, said an
oft-quoted passage in Paul's Epistle to the Romans meant to warn Christians not to be
self-righteous when they see others fall into sin.
and
In the passage of Romans that Williams referred to in Monday's speech, Paul said people who
forgot God's words fell into sin. "Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in
themselves the due penalty for their perversion," Paul wrote.
Williams said these lines were "for the majority of modern readers the most important
single text in Scripture on the subject of homosexuality." But right after that passage, Paul
warns readers not to condemn those who ignore God's word.
How easily he forgets the guidelines the same Saint Paul gave for men who were to be bishops and deacons in another one of his letters.
VR
A. The passages in question are:
26 For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. For their women have
changed the natural use into that use which is against nature. 27 And, in like manner, the
men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another,
men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was
due to their error. 28 And as they liked not to have God in their knowledge, God delivered
them up to a reprobate sense, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled
with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention,
deceit, malignity, whisperers, 30 Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Foolish, dissolute, without affection,
without fidelity, without mercy. [Romans 1]
and
1 Wherefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest. For wherein thou
judgest another, thou condemnest thyself. For thou dost the same things which thou judgest.
2 For we know that the judgment of God is, according to truth, against them that do such
things. 3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them who do such things, and dost the
same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his
goodness, and patience, and long suffering? Knowest thou not, that the benignity of God leadeth
thee to penance? 5 But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest up
to thyself wrath, against the day of wrath, and revelation of the just judgment of God.
[Romans 2]
It is quite fascinating how everyone twists what may be found in the Sacred Scriptures to suit
their fancy or direct others attention from one's less than holy activities.
First of all, we were not even aware of this particular verse when we wrote our document on homosexuality (2), however, it was not necessary even though it is complementary to the points we made. The point Williams is making we make too - without meaning that we endorse sodomy in any of its forms (3) nor William's ultimate objective.
Somehow the self righteous focus on the evils of sodomy while glossing over the rest of the litany of transgressions made by Paul such as: "Iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy."
How convenient, point a flashing neon sign towards the sodomites and in the confusion those who are manning the flashing sign can continue to practice iniquity (that is "injustice"), malice, fornication (illegal intercourse with the opposite sex), envious...... proud, haughty, foolish, dissolute, without mercy.... etc., etc. in peace.
Clever, isn't it? The funniest part - for those who may like dark humor - is that the the flashing neon sign holding self righteous are precisely the ones who more often than others insist that "a sin is a sin" - something that we have debunked elsewhere. Therefore, the self righteous logic equates sodomy with proud, deceit, and disobedience to parents, amongst others.
Lord have Mercy! did we write "...disobedience to parents..."?
"Subject to them" in some of the 3,000 Biblical translations is translated as "Obedient to them"
Of course, Jesus was not being disobedient (more about that on the next post) to His parents and it is precisely to avoid such Faith destroying conclusions that God Willed that we publish two documents (4) precisely about the dangers of literalizing the Sacred Scriptures where they should not.
As another example: Did you notice in one of the quotes above the statement: For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. ?
If that is taken literally - without theological depth - one will understand that God caused them "to such shameful affections". First of all God will not, under any circumstance, deliver/cause any of His children into such soul destroying behavior; secondly, the "shameful affection" Paul spoke of is sodomy . Whether Paul knew then what God has revealed to us now (3) or not about this situation, we do not know.
_________________________________
(1) Original article
(2) Homosexuality and the Sacred Scriptures
(3) satan's Coup d'Etat
(4) About Biblical Literalism - Part I and Part II
First of all, we were not even aware of this particular verse when we wrote our document on homosexuality (2), however, it was not necessary even though it is complementary to the points we made. The point Williams is making we make too - without meaning that we endorse sodomy in any of its forms (3) nor William's ultimate objective.
Somehow the self righteous focus on the evils of sodomy while glossing over the rest of the litany of transgressions made by Paul such as: "Iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers, detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, foolish, dissolute, without affection, without fidelity, without mercy."
How convenient, point a flashing neon sign towards the sodomites and in the confusion those who are manning the flashing sign can continue to practice iniquity (that is "injustice"), malice, fornication (illegal intercourse with the opposite sex), envious...... proud, haughty, foolish, dissolute, without mercy.... etc., etc. in peace.
Clever, isn't it? The funniest part - for those who may like dark humor - is that the the flashing neon sign holding self righteous are precisely the ones who more often than others insist that "a sin is a sin" - something that we have debunked elsewhere. Therefore, the self righteous logic equates sodomy with proud, deceit, and disobedience to parents, amongst others.
Lord have Mercy! did we write "...disobedience to parents..."?
46 And it came to pass, that, after three days, they found him in the temple, sitting in the
midst of the doctors, hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were
astonished at his wisdom and his answers. 48 And seeing him, they wondered. And his mother said to
him: Son, why hast thou done so to us? behold thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And
he said to them: How is it that you sought me? did you not know, that I must be about my father's
business? 50 And they understood not the word that he spoke unto them.
51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them. And his mother
kept all these words in her heart. [Luke 2]
"Subject to them" in some of the 3,000 Biblical translations is translated as "Obedient to them"
Of course, Jesus was not being disobedient (more about that on the next post) to His parents and it is precisely to avoid such Faith destroying conclusions that God Willed that we publish two documents (4) precisely about the dangers of literalizing the Sacred Scriptures where they should not.
As another example: Did you notice in one of the quotes above the statement: For this cause God delivered them up to shameful affections. ?
If that is taken literally - without theological depth - one will understand that God caused them "to such shameful affections". First of all God will not, under any circumstance, deliver/cause any of His children into such soul destroying behavior; secondly, the "shameful affection" Paul spoke of is sodomy . Whether Paul knew then what God has revealed to us now (3) or not about this situation, we do not know.
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(1) Original article
(2) Homosexuality and the Sacred Scriptures
(3) satan's Coup d'Etat
(4) About Biblical Literalism - Part I and Part II
From K @ USA - Published on May 8th
Since my parish does not have a Saturday Mass, I go to another church which is also in a neighboring diocese and I recently noticed that one of the priests there does not have the communal chalice before him when he does the Eucharist blessing and invocations. His chalice is there (he consumes all this chalice), but the other one he keeps off to the side but still on the alter table. I see that he hardly extends his hands much at all over the offerings.
Since they always have two Eucharistic ministers assist, the priests usually take hosts from the tabernacle for the minister to distribute, regardless of how many people are at the Mass--it's usually not very crowded, maybe 35-40 people. Now today, there were a large number of people at the Mass due to a first communion retreat. He did his usual with the chalice. Then he took the hosts from the tabernacle and began placing some of those onto the container he used for the consecration (from which he will distribute communion). As he was doing this, he picked up and consumed another communion from his container. I thought it was unusual for him to do this, since he had already served himself communion. Then when I approached to receive communion, there were not all that many hosts in his container, which made me wonder if he had consecrated any hosts there at all, besides the celebrant's host.
K
Since my parish does not have a Saturday Mass, I go to another church which is also in a neighboring diocese and I recently noticed that one of the priests there does not have the communal chalice before him when he does the Eucharist blessing and invocations. His chalice is there (he consumes all this chalice), but the other one he keeps off to the side but still on the alter table. I see that he hardly extends his hands much at all over the offerings.
Since they always have two Eucharistic ministers assist, the priests usually take hosts from the tabernacle for the minister to distribute, regardless of how many people are at the Mass--it's usually not very crowded, maybe 35-40 people. Now today, there were a large number of people at the Mass due to a first communion retreat. He did his usual with the chalice. Then he took the hosts from the tabernacle and began placing some of those onto the container he used for the consecration (from which he will distribute communion). As he was doing this, he picked up and consumed another communion from his container. I thought it was unusual for him to do this, since he had already served himself communion. Then when I approached to receive communion, there were not all that many hosts in his container, which made me wonder if he had consecrated any hosts there at all, besides the celebrant's host.
After the Mass, I ran into a woman who belongs to this parish who I had met there a few months ago
and whose son is a newly ordained priest and shared my concerns with her. She said that she had
always heard that anything on the table during the consecration would then be consecrated,
so when her son performed a Mass at her home, he left the container for the wine on the small
table they were using as an altar, and she was worried that this wine was also consecrated. But
her son told her--not so--it is only whatever the priest's intends at the time of the
consecration that then become the Body and Blood. So she explains to me that as long as the priest
today intends to also consecrate everything on the table, then it is done, no matter where
the items are placed in relation to his extended hands.
I came home and read your article--again--on transubstantiation....and that does not seem to be
the case from what you say. I take your word for it, since I know your source is the First-Hand.
Now my question, besides that I think I should find a different Saturday Mass church, do you think
it would be helpful for me to write an e-mail to this priest and question what I observed and send
him a copy of your article (I am not a parishioner)? and my nice lady-friend and her son? I
believe her when she says this is the instruction her son received. I would guess he probably
believes what he was taught about intention
K
A. Your concern is very valid and quite Universal.
God pointed out to miguel the grave irregularities in the consecration of the wine and bread as far back as 1992. You can imagine how much worse it is fifteen years later; fifteen years which have seen the canonization of a man like Escriva, a man like Levada being appointed "Guardian of the Faith" (Faith in whom? satan?) and efforts to restore Judas to Grace to the detriment of the entire New Testament - all the while Ratzinger wears his Prada shoes and the masses blissfully adore him.
The "intention concept" which that poor newly ordained priest was taught is wrong. Will they ordain a priest without hands? Offer the Sacrament of Reconciliation and Absolution via the Internet? How about Vatican Bishops ordaining Vatican subservient priests in the PRC through a remote, yet "well intentioned", ceremony? Well, considering all the factors, they may just do that any day now and the blind sheep will fall for it.
What we have stated in our document about Transubstantiation is the way it is - ot at least the best way that it can be explain for humans to understand.
The "bait and switch" technique you describe in your letter (getting out of the Tabernacle hosts which "always were consecrated in another Mass" - we are still looking for those elusive Masses... (1) ) it is so commonplace that is no longer questioned by the disoriented Faithful.
Should you change your Saturday Mass Church? By all means! We are quite confident that most hosts being consumed today in many parts of the world are not consecrated. Therefore, when the Faithful finds a priest of God - just latch on to the Sacraments he dispenses and accept no substitutes.
Back to the newly ordained priest. In the late eighties there were many Seminarians in the Houston-Galveston Area who referred to us - those who Adored the Blessed Sacrament - as "Cookie worshippers." That was in the late eighties! Am afraid to ask what, in their opinion, we should be called today - nearly twenty years later.
Divine Mercy demands that you share with both priests the information which we have published in the Name of God so that they have an opportunity to correct their errors - although, in all probability, it will be rejected.
(1) Only have observed this occur in the Sanctuary of Fatima when, at times, there may be fifty or a hundred priests concelebrating a Mass with an Altar packed with chalices full of hosts. Logically, even though there may be thousands in attendance, hundreds of consecrated hosts remain after Mass which, in procession, are ceremoniously place in the Tabernacle of the Sanctuary.
God pointed out to miguel the grave irregularities in the consecration of the wine and bread as far back as 1992. You can imagine how much worse it is fifteen years later; fifteen years which have seen the canonization of a man like Escriva, a man like Levada being appointed "Guardian of the Faith" (Faith in whom? satan?) and efforts to restore Judas to Grace to the detriment of the entire New Testament - all the while Ratzinger wears his Prada shoes and the masses blissfully adore him.
The "intention concept" which that poor newly ordained priest was taught is wrong. Will they ordain a priest without hands? Offer the Sacrament of Reconciliation and Absolution via the Internet? How about Vatican Bishops ordaining Vatican subservient priests in the PRC through a remote, yet "well intentioned", ceremony? Well, considering all the factors, they may just do that any day now and the blind sheep will fall for it.
What we have stated in our document about Transubstantiation is the way it is - ot at least the best way that it can be explain for humans to understand.
The "bait and switch" technique you describe in your letter (getting out of the Tabernacle hosts which "always were consecrated in another Mass" - we are still looking for those elusive Masses... (1) ) it is so commonplace that is no longer questioned by the disoriented Faithful.
Should you change your Saturday Mass Church? By all means! We are quite confident that most hosts being consumed today in many parts of the world are not consecrated. Therefore, when the Faithful finds a priest of God - just latch on to the Sacraments he dispenses and accept no substitutes.
Back to the newly ordained priest. In the late eighties there were many Seminarians in the Houston-Galveston Area who referred to us - those who Adored the Blessed Sacrament - as "Cookie worshippers." That was in the late eighties! Am afraid to ask what, in their opinion, we should be called today - nearly twenty years later.
Divine Mercy demands that you share with both priests the information which we have published in the Name of God so that they have an opportunity to correct their errors - although, in all probability, it will be rejected.
(1) Only have observed this occur in the Sanctuary of Fatima when, at times, there may be fifty or a hundred priests concelebrating a Mass with an Altar packed with chalices full of hosts. Logically, even though there may be thousands in attendance, hundreds of consecrated hosts remain after Mass which, in procession, are ceremoniously place in the Tabernacle of the Sanctuary.
From ZM @ Ukraine - Published on May 6th
I read a lot of news, both international, technical and Ukraine/Eastern Europe/Russia and local. Like in all the world things most of news are bad.
I'm wondering if I need to re-tell those news to my friends, and family. From one side I know that probably they do not understand full scale of events and even when they do this information is a heavy burden for them and probably with such information their life is not getting easier.
But from the other side it is told that "we are the salt to the world" and if we do not tell this who will?
My question is - maybe I'm wrong with what I do - probably they need first to know more about Real Christ and Christianity and only later about realities of this world?
In other words probably "evangelization" mission has higher priority than "announcement of impending apocalypse"?
If it is possible, thank you for yours answer.
May God help you in your work,
ZM
I read a lot of news, both international, technical and Ukraine/Eastern Europe/Russia and local. Like in all the world things most of news are bad.
I'm wondering if I need to re-tell those news to my friends, and family. From one side I know that probably they do not understand full scale of events and even when they do this information is a heavy burden for them and probably with such information their life is not getting easier.
But from the other side it is told that "we are the salt to the world" and if we do not tell this who will?
My question is - maybe I'm wrong with what I do - probably they need first to know more about Real Christ and Christianity and only later about realities of this world?
In other words probably "evangelization" mission has higher priority than "announcement of impending apocalypse"?
If it is possible, thank you for yours answer.
May God help you in your work,
ZM
A. Thank you for this opportunity to discuss this matter.
The question that you bring up is very important for the solution must be perfectly balanced to yield the desired results.
First of all, we must live our Faith with serenity and conviction - no fanaticism but no compromise. Always keeping in mind the words of Jesus:
The question that you bring up is very important for the solution must be perfectly balanced to yield the desired results.
First of all, we must live our Faith with serenity and conviction - no fanaticism but no compromise. Always keeping in mind the words of Jesus:
And the scribes and the Pharisees, seeing that he ate with publicans and sinners, said to his
disciples: Why doth your master eat and drink with publicans and sinners? Jesus hearing this,
saith to them: They that are well have no need of a physician, but they that are sick. For I came
not to call the just, but sinners. [Mark 2: 16-18]
When miguel de Portugal "worked" the discotheques (1985 through 1991) no one knew who he was nor
what he did there yet he was always accepted as "part of the scene" without him taking part
of the scene. Many crucifixes and medals were given in those places - on command from God - which
were received with such reverence - even by the most "hardened" sinners - that it was truly
humbling. He could write a book with the most incredible stories of that phase of his work for
God. No one ever showed lack of respect and he found more saints and
witnessed more conversions in those discotheques and alley ways
than he ever did in the Church pews.
Living our Faith with serenity and conviction is the most powerful Evangelization tool. This process starts opening the Eyes and Earsof those who must eventually See and Hear.
Secondly, the news of the days can be commented upon in a matter of fact manner, always drawing parallels to proven concrete facts like political conspiracies, mass brainwashing activities by the media, the concerted effort to destroy the foundations of the Christian Faith, the dangers of fanaticism, the harm due to child sex abuse, etc. These are seeds which are casually dropped along the way, at the appropriate time, will eventually cause the individual to think on his/her own: "Didn't Z mention something like this?"
Last, but not least, and in accordance to the latest instructions from Heaven - shift the focus from the Second Coming of Jesus to the manifestation of the False Christ. It is very hard for people to conceive the Second Coming of Christ and it "cannot be proven" until it has happened in a Flash; however, the preparations for the manifestation of the False Christ are easily discernible - whether through the easily proven fact of the plans for the One World Government as well as the One World Religion.
If we can succeed in achieving the opening of the Eyes and Ears of the Elect who are still in a slumber and alert them to the advent of the False Christ, who could even deceive the Elect [Matthew 24:24], success will be complete because when Jesus manifests Himself in His Second Coming (Step No. 14 of the Sequence of Events), the event will be joyfully accepted - even if it was not consciously expected.
Living our Faith with serenity and conviction is the most powerful Evangelization tool. This process starts opening the Eyes and Earsof those who must eventually See and Hear.
Secondly, the news of the days can be commented upon in a matter of fact manner, always drawing parallels to proven concrete facts like political conspiracies, mass brainwashing activities by the media, the concerted effort to destroy the foundations of the Christian Faith, the dangers of fanaticism, the harm due to child sex abuse, etc. These are seeds which are casually dropped along the way, at the appropriate time, will eventually cause the individual to think on his/her own: "Didn't Z mention something like this?"
Last, but not least, and in accordance to the latest instructions from Heaven - shift the focus from the Second Coming of Jesus to the manifestation of the False Christ. It is very hard for people to conceive the Second Coming of Christ and it "cannot be proven" until it has happened in a Flash; however, the preparations for the manifestation of the False Christ are easily discernible - whether through the easily proven fact of the plans for the One World Government as well as the One World Religion.
If we can succeed in achieving the opening of the Eyes and Ears of the Elect who are still in a slumber and alert them to the advent of the False Christ, who could even deceive the Elect [Matthew 24:24], success will be complete because when Jesus manifests Himself in His Second Coming (Step No. 14 of the Sequence of Events), the event will be joyfully accepted - even if it was not consciously expected.
From Initials Withheld @ USA - Published on May 4th
My sister, age 53 has terminal cancer. I feel blocked when I want to ask an Intention for her, so I realized I needed to examine my relationship with her.
Her life has been lived in opposition to my own, from childhood, desiring all that the world and New-Age self worship can offer. Many times she has intentionally offended me. Perhaps she didn't mean to hurt ME but opposed my Spirit; however, the hurt and offenses are there and continue even now that she is desperately ill.
Thus I feel a block to my desire to pray for her salvation. Have you any advice and a prayer to help me?
Initials Withheld
My sister, age 53 has terminal cancer. I feel blocked when I want to ask an Intention for her, so I realized I needed to examine my relationship with her.
Her life has been lived in opposition to my own, from childhood, desiring all that the world and New-Age self worship can offer. Many times she has intentionally offended me. Perhaps she didn't mean to hurt ME but opposed my Spirit; however, the hurt and offenses are there and continue even now that she is desperately ill.
Thus I feel a block to my desire to pray for her salvation. Have you any advice and a prayer to help me?
Initials Withheld
A. Only God can remove that block from your heart; a block which appears to have
been "well cemented" by her continued antagonism throughout a lifetime.
First step is to imagine, in the quiet of your soul, that she apologizes to you and is desirous to make amends. What do you feel? If the forgiveness comes naturally - as if it had been there all the time just waiting for her to release it with a sincere apology, you have reached the perfection of the Father (be Perfect as your Father is perfect) in this most important area.
If you do not feel that way, then that may be the source of the block you experience in praying for her conversion.
If you feel that way, then, the spiritual scars which resulted from her unrelenting attacks are hindering you. In either case the solution is to ask God to bestow upon you the necessary Graces to overcome either situation.
Let us not forget the covenant we enter with God whenever we pray the Our Father. Most individuals take that as "just another prayer", yet, it is not. It is a covenant which God will uphold, thus, He will "...forgive our trespasses (just) as we forgive those who trespass against us..."
First step is to imagine, in the quiet of your soul, that she apologizes to you and is desirous to make amends. What do you feel? If the forgiveness comes naturally - as if it had been there all the time just waiting for her to release it with a sincere apology, you have reached the perfection of the Father (be Perfect as your Father is perfect) in this most important area.
If you do not feel that way, then that may be the source of the block you experience in praying for her conversion.
If you feel that way, then, the spiritual scars which resulted from her unrelenting attacks are hindering you. In either case the solution is to ask God to bestow upon you the necessary Graces to overcome either situation.
Let us not forget the covenant we enter with God whenever we pray the Our Father. Most individuals take that as "just another prayer", yet, it is not. It is a covenant which God will uphold, thus, He will "...forgive our trespasses (just) as we forgive those who trespass against us..."
From The M+G+R Foundation - Published on April 27th
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Any correspondence addressed to us will be looked at eventually, although an individual response will no longer be possible except in very rare occasions.
We invoke upon you many Blessings from on High!
The M+G+R Foundation
From LP @ USA Published on April 30th
Bartholomew I, the Ecumenical Patriarch of the Orthodox Church (Catholic Church of the East), has endorsed Benedict XVI's book on Jesus.
LP
Bartholomew I, the Ecumenical Patriarch of the Orthodox Church (Catholic Church of the East), has endorsed Benedict XVI's book on Jesus.
LP
A. Well, as we said, God secured a delay through
some behind the scenes work but, it was only a delay and Bartholomew I finally caved in to the
enticements of the Vatican. All is working out according to schedule.
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