From JT @ USA -
Published
on June 28th, 2009
Although I haven't read all of your documents, your document on papal
infallibility implys that the RC church teaches that all the decisions
of the pope are supposed to be infallible. This is not the RC teaching,
which is that only those pronouncements which were made ex cathedra are
infallible.
If you disagree with some of these few ex cathedra
statements, I would be interested in which ones.
You obviously agree
with some, such as the Immaculate Conception, and since there are very
few of these pronouncements, I'm not sure which you disagree with.
JT
A. Since you are the one who
claims that we are in the wrong, please carefully review our document
on Infallibility (1)
and point out in detail where you think that we may have erred. It is
you who must defend your claim.
In addition, you specifically asked: "
If you disagree with some of these few ex
cathedra
statements, I would be interested in which ones." we will
address that question now.
Any notion that the canonization of an individual falls under the
infallible veil, we -
in the
Name of God - rebuke it.
Thank your for the opportunity to clarify this issue as well as the
meaning of the
Keys of the Kingdom. (2)
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(1) About Papal
Infallibility
(2) The Keys of the
Kingdom
From WO @ USA -
Published
on June 24th, 2009 [Traditional
celebration of the birth of
John the Baptist]
May Christ bless you!
In reference to your - The Game Plan (1) - among other things,
what struck
me is that we need to be very careful when we recite the words of the
Creed - Apostle's or that of the Council of Nicea. If I am in any way
wrong in what I say here, please do correct me!
Specifically the phrase:" ....and I believe in one, holy,
Catholic,
and Apostolic church (Nicene) or 'the holy Catholic church'
(Apostle's)". I think that one must be very careful in uttering or
mentally praying this. One must understand this as being "catholic"
(lower case 'c', meaning the one universal church founded by Jesus
& loyal to Him)....... NOT as "Catholic" (upper case "C") meaning
the man-made organization run amuck, heaquartered in the Vatican -
complete with its EENS so-called 'dogma". To understand and believe
what we are praying here in these phrases as belief in the Faith........
not "the "Church". These phrases, drilled into our heads since
childhood are spiritual/theological "tiger traps"!
On a related point (and I am NOT a Latin or Greek scholar!) in a
TV presentation given by some Protestant minister, the point was made
that the word "church" did not exist in the time of Christ; but the
Latin word "ecclesia" (and its Greek root) did. There would seem to be
a big difference between the two words/concepts. "Church" has its roots
in German & Scandinavian languages (
i.e. kirk, kirche = church)...... which refers to both a physical
building and to an "assembly"; which is the common understanding of the
term in reference to a group/organization. On the other hand
":Ecclesia" (the word uttered by Christ) in its Greek root means
something completely different. My understanding is that it means
"out-calling" or "ones called out....... selected". "It is not too much
of a stretch to see how this can be perceived to mean, by extension,
"the Elect".
Therefore, if what I understand is correct (and explained properly
here) this serves to reinforce what you have said about "the Rock" and
the rest of the words which Our Lord spoke to Peter........ which have
been misappropriated to refer to the Vatican. There is a big difference
between what we call "the church" being the ones "called out from among
men by God"........ and "an
assembly....... building........ organization...... hiearchial
structure....... multi-billion dollar/multinational money machine". Of
course if you look in a dictionary you will find that "ecclesia" (and
all of its grammatical offshoots) are claimed now to refer to "church".
In addition, I find a problem in the 2nd paragraph of the original
Latin (or a COMPETENT translation into English -
not
what you find in a Missalette!). From said paragraph it would appear
that Christ was either
'hatched' or the product of same-sex reproduction - long before Mary
enters the picture. In English:
"....born of the Father before all
ages.......begotten, not made...".
In latin:
"...et ex Patre natum ante
omnia saecula........genitum, non factum..."
Begotten
= of natural procreation. If God has no beginning, is eternal, is
uncreated, then this makes no sense - as this must apply to all three
persons of the Trinity.That Jesus was 'born' in Time, via the action of
the Holy Ghost, of the Virgin Mary is another matter, described in a
subsequent paragraph in the Nicene Creed.
I hope I am not misunderstanding something here or wasting your time.
How utterly diabolical!
You remain in my daily prayers.
WO
A. Thank you for the
opportunity to address this issue as well as for your prayers. We are
neither Latin nor Greek scholars but - in general terms - we agree with
your "church" word analysis.
Now - to the point. We have not prayed the Nicean Creed for some time
because, as we may have written years ago, it is theologically
incorrect. It denies the Trinity in more ways than one; one of
which you have pointed.
On the other hand, the Apostles
Creed is essentially flawless and that is the Creed we pray with only
one small change.
Where it reads "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church,
the communion of saints...." we have changed it to "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Faith (2), the communion of saints....".
Today's common usage dictates that when we say "Catholic Church" it
basically means the "Roman Catholic Church Administration" and, in
them,
we certainly do not believe as we have made crystal clear. (3)
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(1) The
Game Plan
(2) Our
full endorsement of the key and basic tenets of the Catholic Faith
(3) Our
Position about the Roman Catholic Church Administration - Part I and
Part
II
From LP @ US -
Published on June 20th [Feast
of the Immaculate Heart of Mary]
Supposedly, the Ark of the
Covenant is about to be revealed by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church,
which
claim to have had custody of it for centuries in the city of Axum.
A brief English summary of the news article in Italian (1)
It's official: The Orthodox Patriarch of Ethiopia, Abuna Pauolos,
announced yesterday in Rome that the Lost Ark is in Ethiopia and will
be shown to the public and permanently exposed in a museum.
The Patriarch will
meet the Pope this week and will make the official world announcement
next Friday from Rome.
If this story is real, it does not yet have "legs" in the mainstream
media.
Let me suppose, for the sake of argument, that the "Ark" discussed in
the story is authentic, and will indeed be unveiled soon to the public.
Nevertheless, it seems to me that it would not have REAL theological
significance, although it would be a "phenomenon" that Temple Masters
of various groups could exploit to great and harmful effect.
Nevertheless:
(a) The Ark was at the core of the
Jewish Temple ... but didn't the Presence of God leave the Temple
before the exile to Babylon, or certainly with the Crucifixion and the
tearing of the veil in two?
(b) Why
be concerned with a man-made (and once-blessed) Ark of the temple made
with hands ... when Christ has entered the temple not made with hands
and intercedes for us?
(c) If
the Ark is a symbol or foreshadowing of the Real Presence, then it
seems to me that the Eucharist - in which Jesus is present, Body and
Blood, Soul and Divinity - is greater than the Ark.
(d) In
the Divine Liturgy (or some other Orthodox prayer), it is said that
Mary is the Ark of the Covenant, since she bore Christ in her womb. If
the ark was a symbolic box containing the Ten Commandment Tablets,
wouldn't Mary - a living woman who "contained" Jesus till she gave
birth to Him - be greater than any Ark?
If a
physical artifact is brought forth with great fanfare on earth as the
real Ark, its finding could be one of the Deceiver’s evil “signs and
portents” (2 Thessalonians
2:9). (2)
LP
A.
We have reviewed a responsible documentary hosted by Josh Bernstein
about the Ark and Ethiopia. We have also read some about it. The claim
does hold water, so to speak, but, as you have pointed out, even if it
contained the original tablets with the Ten Commandments, for Catholics
- East and West - it should only have historical and confirming value.
Yes, the Tablets were engraved by God and that is indeed a Miracle and
proof of Divine Intervention but so was the Incarnation of the Word of
God and the Miracle of the Sun at Fátima, for example.
The New Ark of the Covenant is indeed Mary since the New Covenant was
manifested in the person of Jesus Christ. His Eucharistic Presence is
at the center of the Catholic Faith - and it should certainly be.
Unfortunately, generally speaking, neither priestly class nor lay class
demonstrate such belief by their actions. They focus the attention and
adoration more on graven or sculpted images.
At this point - and not excluding any other exploitation of the event
for hellish purposes - the only real significance that it could have
would be:
For
those who are pushing to build the Third Temple - Christians and Jews
alike - the appearance of the Ark of the Covenant would signal the "go
ahead" from Heaven to build the Third Temple - come the proverbial
"hell or high water".
Were that the case, one can easily imagine what such scenario will do
to the already-existing strife in the Middle East.... but then again,
such is the schedule.
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(1)
Il
Patriarca d'Etiopia: "Il mondo conoscerà l'Arca dell'Alleanza" -
Adnkronos Altro
(2) Biblical Prophecies of the
Second
Coming of Christ
From (Mrs.) IW
@ US - Published
on June 18th, 2009
The scenario that you present
regarding the essential way that the US may be removed from the one
world "big picture" (1)
is one that I have believed will occur since initially reading Catholic
prophecy some 20+ years ago now.
The US will have to be effectively "neutralized" by some major
continent wide "disaster" --- whether it be by man made or Divine
intervention --- so that the rest of the prophecies can unfold. I
present a twist to your scenario.
What if Obama is the actual catalyst to remove the US from the world
stage by his policies and thus making the US vulnerable to
attack? He is demolishing all that I have ever known to be dear
to the USA (I am 54 years old) --- he is slowly and insidiously
removing our freedoms and our rights as US citizens and opening us up
to a military attack or a certain financial disaster.
I believe that Obama is a Muslim at heart and he is a pawn for the
Muslim fanatics... I am not sure that he doesn't have a "suicide
bomber" mentality and is willing to be sacrificed to further the Muslim
cause or the New World Order..... I will not be surprised if he is
martyred for his "cause" but I most certainly will not consider it
something he does for the good of the citizens of the US.
My prayers for you continue. Please pray for us also ....such is
the sad state of affairs here in metro Detroit, MI...
(Mrs.) IW
A. As we have
stated before, ultimately President Obama is not in charge any more
than President Bush was. What people can see is only "Window dressing"
but the overall plan continues on track (2). The Obama election was
only a reflection of the delay that God granted (and was announced by
us in early 2009) and not a change of routing.
The "Muslim Conspiracy" you, and many others allude to brings to mind
the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (3) conspiracy that started
circulating in the early 20th century with the intent of fanning the
hate against Jews; a hate that saw its first manifestation in the Nazi
holocaust. From what we understand, the Muslim version of that
publication is a certain book (4)
written by Desmond A. Birch.
It is understandable that most cannot see what is truly taking place in
preparation for the manifestation of the False Christ. Allow us to
present it another fashion. Let us rewind all the way back to the time
of Abraham and Sarah.... not, let us not do that now. God has just now revealed so much
information about the parallel we have made that we will have to
write a full document on the subject matter.
We must Thank you! since, as it often
happens,
once we focused on a questions/concerns that we must address the Divine
"download" was
almost instantaneously.
You may be assured of our
prayers
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(1) June 15th Post in Did
you know that....?
(2) Details of
the
Establishment of
a New International Order
(3) Protocols of
the Elders of Zion.
(4)
Trial,
Tribulation & Triumph: Before, During, and After Antichrist
From (Mr.) IW
@ US - Published
on June 15th, 2009
I became curious about
whether or how Antichrist (AC) is mentioned in the Catechism of Trent,
and in the Catechism of H.H. John Paul II.
In the Catechism of Trent (1)
there is one mention of the AC (on p. 70 of this
on-line edition):
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The Sacred Scriptures inform us that the
general judgment will be preceded by these three principal signs: the
preaching of the Gospel throughout the world, a falling away from the
faith, and the coming of Antichrist. This gospel of the kingdom, says
our Lord, shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all
nations, and then shall the
consummation come. The Apostle also admonishes us that we be not
seduced by anyone, as if the day of the Lord were at hand; for unless
there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the
judgement will not come.
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They said as little as possible about the AC. It might have been so (a) because it was not yet time for
more to be revealed, as of the 1500s, or (b) for ulterior reasons: protecting
the Hierarchy, or (c) for some
other reason that you might know.
There is more in the Catechism of H.H. John Paul II - The Church's ultimate trial (2):
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675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must
pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many
believers.574 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on
earth575 will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a
religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems
at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious
deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man
glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the
flesh.576
676 The Antichrist's
deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the
claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can
only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment.
The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of
the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism,577 especially the
"intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.578
677 The Church will
enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when
she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.579 The kingdom
will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church
through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the
final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from
heaven.580 God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of
the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing
world.581
680 Christ the Lord
already reigns through the Church, but all the things of this world are
not yet subjected to him. The triumph of Christ's kingdom will not come
about without one last assault by the powers of evil.
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I bring this up because of a question that came to me last night: - a
concern that the teaching in the Catechism might direct people away
from expecting a False Christ, and toward expecting "merely" a
secular-humanist assault from outside the Church.
- Para. 675 does
warn against a "religious deception" that tempts men to apostasy, a
defection from true Faith. But the last sentence of the paragraph is
vague on whether the Antichrist/False Christ (AC/FC) is an individual,
or a collectivity. It would have read very differently if it had said, "a pseudo-messianism by which a man
glorifies himself in place of God ... "
- Para. 676 warns explicitly against the
"intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism ... a
warning that is on-target against Communism and against a
Gorbachev-style New World Order ... but para. 676 leaves people unaware
of the right-wing variant of the New World Order and of the churchly
origins and claims of the deceiver(s).
- Para. 677 ties the Second Coming to the end of
the world; as might be expected, there is no reference to a millennial
reign of Christ.
In summary: It does seem that most readers of these paragraphs will be
put on their guard against Obama and Gore and Gorbachev ... and will
not be alerted against the spiritual sons of Escriva.
And yet, with these deficiencies, in these paragraphs the Roman
Catholic Church is saying more "officially" about the AC/FC than it has
in a very long time, if ever.
(Mr.) IW
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(1)
On-line
Catechism of Trent
(2)
Catechism
of the
Catholic Church - PART 1 SECTION 2 CHAPTER 2 ARTICLE 7
A. In reference to the lack of information on the AntiChrist in
the Catechism of Trent...
The human reason for the lack of information
was the abysmal darkness the Church Administrators lived in at the
time. If we review how they practiced, and led others to practice, the
Faith, it becomes obvious that they neither understood the Scriptures,
in general, nor the Good News clearly spelled out by Jesus, in
particular. As we have often said: Pillage, plunder and the slaughter
of human beings - under
any circumstance
- are totally foreign to Jesus and His teachings.
The Supernatural reason was that Biblical prophecy about the End of
These Times was to be clearly explained now and to be understood only
by those who
should.
Regarding the statements you quote from the Catechism of H.H. John Paul
II...
We addressed part of this issue on
May 21, 2004, as a Note to an existing document. The text of said Note
follows:
Carefully note that what is meant by "...this
falsification
of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism..."
is not the real thousand years spoken of in Revelation
20:1-10.
What the Catechism is warning the faithful about - maybe
unknowingly - is the "falsification
of the kingdom", that is, when the False Christ, about whom we have
written and warned the faithful about, will try to convince people to
work
with him to achieve the real thousand years of peace and prosperity.
This
"falsification of the kingdom" would be "the 'intrinsically
perverse' political form of a secular messianism" that you alluded
to in Paragraph No. 676. and
Mercifully, those who need to be alerted to avoid falling in the error,
thus
deception, that you mentioned in the closing of your letter, will find
it in our documents regarding the New World Order
(1) and the One Universal
Religion
(2)
and the links from them.
We thank your for giving us the opportunity to address these
issues in this forum.
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(1) New International World Order
(2) One Universal Religion
From (Mr.) IC
@ Philippines - Published
on June 12th, 2009
Brethren, Thanks
largely to the work you all do.
I believe most of us had been "sensitized" enough to have seen coming
what you have highlighted in your latest mailing (1).
Recently, I had come across an article (2) that made me think that
this “pandemic” or some similar “crisis” could be linked to it.
Quite frankly, I would be very relieved if you can tell me that I'm
just jumping at shadows.
Yours in Christ.
IC
A. For many years miguel de
Portugal (3)
lived with a dual "mind set".
On the one hand, once he gave God his "Yes",
he followed the instructions given by God to the proverbial "T". The
nature of the Instructions
were: (a) What to say (or write), to whom and when; (b) What prayers
and sacrifices to offer and their purpose and intent; and (c) Where to
go -
geographically - and prophecy.
On the other hand he tried to believe that he was, as you
said, only "jumping at shadows." - but never failing to follow
His
Instructions.
Eventually - as miguel saw manifested in the world what he was
announcing in the Name, and by the command of God and he saw the
unmistakable results of his following the Instructions given by God, he
finally had to admit to himself that he was not "jumping at shadows".
Then, the dual "mind set" ceased.
Why the need of such duality from, say, from 1991 through 1998? To
protect his sanity. If God had revealed to miguel in 1991 the
responsibilities in store for him, most likely he would have died of
shock.
We regret that such is all the relieve that we can offer you and I pray
that we have been able to, not only "sensitize" you, but all others who
have come in contact with us.
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(1) See Footnote no. 1
in the June 12th posting of our Points
to Ponder About page.
(2)
Saudi files for 'killer' tracking chip patent
(3) About
miguel
de Portugal
From (Mr.) WS
@ USA - Published
on June 10th, 2009
There was an article in
yesterday's Washington Post Outlook Section by Gorbachev (1). It was titled "We had our Perestroika. It's high
time for yours!" Is this a harbinger or the Road map
to the End of this Age?
Maybe this would be the Wikipedia article for Restructuring of the US
paraphrasing the article on Perestroika:
The Restructuring reforms began the process leading
to the dismantling
of the United State's economy and its replacement with a socialistic
economy. However, the process arguably exacerbated already existing
social and economic tensions within the United States, and no doubt
helped to further socialism and fragmentation of the Federal Government
into 10 political regions. The economic chaos that began with
Restructuring helped both to empower organized crime and allowed
businessmen with the right connections to amass great personal fortunes
as oligarchs. Federal Government directors, regional Governors and
Senior Military have become multi-millionaires; National leaders have
become multi-billionaires. The economic constraints instituted by the
Dictator (my comment: not Obama) under Restructuring and the problems
caused by these reforms arguably helped to begin the unraveling of
American society and hastened the end of the United States.
